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of consistency and we'll do monsters

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talking about them

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well welcome back to monsters talking

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about them so I take a while we didn't

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find something but I finally found

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something topic I first discovered in

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the the forward of the humanoids book

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real I think it's called real encounters

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with being of another world or another

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something

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it's called being humanoids and in the

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in the forward it mentioned something

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called Leon Rouge it means the red man

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now this this red man is a he's an

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impish red skinned figure that appeared

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over 260 years in French history and

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apparently he was first typically seen

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at night most of in most of his uh I

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guess he can you pronounce this guy's a

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name again I want to make sure I get it

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right

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they are Rouge naome Rouge

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okay yeah good enough I think I

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pronounced it right I'm gonna go with

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your primary pronunciation you have

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foreign language skills beyond most

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mortal men what uh so when this guy was

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witnessed he usually was a bad omen he

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brought lost in destruction it was um

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primarily Dean in the Louvre and the

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likud didn't think oh I can get this

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right it's the - Larry - Larry Palace

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the Louvre and the Tillery palaces in

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Paris it's apparently will leave used to

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be a palace did not know that at least

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part of it and apparently he was also

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this thing the red man was referenced in

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books in official records and also in

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Napoleon's Diaries so in many historical

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texts his first appearance is made in

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history here by Catherine de Medici and

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the de Medicis were a powerful family

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from Florence Italy in the I guess I'd

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be the the high Renaissance 15 1600s

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after exactly the Renaissance ended but

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that's neither here nor there I guess

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can i interject real quick mm-hmm so the

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yeah it says the Louvre is former royal

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palace yeah and and what was the name of

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the the this monster again um it's L

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apostrophe H Oh mm II and then Rouge

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guess okay I guess I'm not sure what

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this is think like what what is it about

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this monster makes a monster like what's

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the size and description or in fact that

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uh it's like a small impish like

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figure that appears at midnight okay

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okay that's what he said that in the

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beginning I almost did again I blanked

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out no I just a guy that drinks all the

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time he's always red and he's just

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yelling drunk okay look sorry go ahead

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so Catherine de Medicis at the Tillery

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palace and she described the impish

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creature

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dressed entirely in red some people

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reported as like red skin but sometimes

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they're just saying is this impish

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little little demon thing covered in or

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dressed in red she apparently realized

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it was not a earthly being and thought

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it was a bad omen of things to come so I

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guess in her history after she had seen

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this this red the red man she she would

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go on to instigate the Saint

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which the French Huguenot leaders were

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all assassinated or most of them were in

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the French Catholic mob violence

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occurred across the country against

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French Protestants Huguenots for

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Protestants France and it's at the time

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of the Reformation in you know 30 Years

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War so a lot of Catholic and Protestant

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violence what was occurring during that

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time so I guess the first appearance of

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the red man I'm trying to find this guy

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where like I can't find this stuff

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online how did you find this

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I was mentioned the forward of that

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humanoid the book and then I found if

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I tried searching for like red man the

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Polian and stuff like that I like it is

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style documents and stuff like this I

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would I try red man Napoleon I know he's

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referenced as long Bruges and one of

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these things that I found Napoleon's red

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man's a porn so watch out there's this

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little red man of death took him a

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little red man we can do Polian in the

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little red man of Destiny is that the is

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that yes right yeah I'm saying the next

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I guess the next sighting in our next

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historical figure that I couldn't fire

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and that was mentioned here was was

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louis xvi in 1792 apparently chambers

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maids discovered the beam in the king's

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bed when the king had fled the palace as

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a threat of the revolutionaries grew so

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Versailles these chamber maids were on

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the guard going to find the king or

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whatever and then they discovered this

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thing in his bed and several months

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later guards claimed to have seen the

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beam in the prison I believe they're

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probably held at the best deal but I

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could not I didn't should have looked

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that up but the guards presumably think

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of the best deal saw this beam were

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Looby a sixteenth of Marie Antoinette

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waited their execution so for these two

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examples here this kind of beam will a

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bad omen or a kind of a prophet

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prophetic thing for French leaders

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throughout history up to this point now

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and it's coming becomes a little bit

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more interesting because he actually

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interacts with the creature but to set

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Napoleon first encountered the most

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called the red minster cornered the bean

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but fresh encounter of the red man in

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1798 during his campaign in Egypt mmm

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inho he's all Egyptian campaign was post

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you know defendant French trade

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interests there we can written access

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India and stuff like that in case people

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were curious civil background and wide

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Napoleon was there so this being alleged

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was alleged to have appeared in

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Napoleon's bedchamber after the Battle

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of the pyramids the entity claims it had

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given advice to rulers of France over

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many years it explained to came too warm

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of a mistake in his plans

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so apparently throughout this is

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believed this was taken from the polling

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its diary this just came out of the

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humanoid so I'm assuming that's how I

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know the conversation or the speculative

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but here's what apparent what happened

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in the conversation now you'd become far

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too ambitious the red band admonished

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the French people are growing weary of

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your overwhelming lust for power I have

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only ever done that which was in the

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best interest of France and not my own

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certain apollyon must have replied maybe

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it's a speculative but either way how is

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it that you know

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of so many of my plant or so much of my

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plants the mysterious oddly hewed

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visitors merely smiled and shook his

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head I've been at your side since you

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were a boy said and I know you better

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than you know yourself the big pneumatic

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reply greatly puzzled Napoleon who

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listened in amazement amazement as the

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red man told him that his orders to the

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French fleet had not been obeyed and

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that as ambitious of campaign he would

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furthermore the entity claimed that

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Napoleon returned to France to find her

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surrounded by an allied Europe and he

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would be confronted by angry mobs and

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streets of Paris the would-be dictator

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found this all hard to believe but sure

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enough the Egyptian campaign failed and

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just as the red man had predicted it

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would wow this guy this seems to be no

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good he seems to bring these things

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bring nothing but like heartbreak to to

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Napoleon really they have got a great

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kid of Napoleon's he's like the devil on

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the shoulder yeah kinda you right kind

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of thatis I gotta forget that maybe

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there'd be something they looking again

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for the another monsters talking about

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them the evolution of the actual devil

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sitting on your shoulder in here the

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police must be out looking for a little

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red man right now I think it's about

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time you become a vigilante superhero I

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guess I guess I could be go out there

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and fight the crimes with I'll shoot

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everyone on your street so the police

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that's the way Hitler would have done it

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why not I guess so oh so good that you

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got this can I can i interject with the

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little piece that I'm finding from

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dashing yes nice um is it about this

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topic so you should I might be covering

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it you're gonna probably cover it

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alright let me wait because this is

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fascinating uh yeah I don't have there's

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only me I get like me at less than five

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minutes left if that but uh okay so

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after the Nepal mm the Egyptian campaign

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and that failed in the point talked to

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this entity he was next seen in 1809 and

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the beam appeared again in schönbrunn

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which is in Austria it was after the

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Battle of Agra

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meeting with him this time being

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indicated he would have many

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more years of success the successive

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headed him ahead of him as in Napoleon

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but he should not conduct a campaign

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eastward and but but some people know in

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history the point did have a disastrous

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campaign eastward in 1812 and the

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polling invaded Russia suffered terrible

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defeat a lot of his men starved he had

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to retreat back to Europe I didn't know

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how cold it got up there yeah

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turns out two Russian winters suck so

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that was the second time that he had an

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interaction with the be now the final

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appearance was on the morning of January

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1st in 1814 it was approximately three

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months but before deployment was a force

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that uh his forced abdication as a

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result of the Treaty of Fontainebleau

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this beam was witnessed by the councilor

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of states so there was actually a second

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witness to this it demanded to speak

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wasn't the point of the matters of great

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so the counselor had been given strict

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orders that the Emperor and being

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Napoleon was not to be disturbed but

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when informed of his arrival the

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peculiar visitor was granted immediate

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entrance the emperor allegedly begged

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the entity for more time to complete his

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plans but being the of the beam

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explained that he was neither deity nor

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prophet it had no power to change the

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course of things I am but a messenger he

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said to the bullion I am to inform you

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that you have three months to achieve a

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creep I'm sorry a general piece or it

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will be all over for you

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in the ill-conceived effort to gain more

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time the arrogant Emperor launched a new

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Eastern campaign but this left France

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vulnerable and she soon fell into the

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hands of the enemies that were allied

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against her on Evo vers April 1st

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exactly three months later the Senate

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called for de pointes abdication and

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then I guess if some at all I mean after

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the point abdicated he was exile to elba

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he came back for his last hurrah and he

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was finally defeated once more in a

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campaign to the east relative east and

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northeast in Belgium and Waterloo in

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1815 so I mean that that would be all

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folks at least for the red man I know it

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mentioned he appeared a few other times

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throughout history but it did give me I

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couldn't find as much of detail as I

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could on Napoleon

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very different than what we've covered

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in the past as far as monsters go a lot

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of the monsters we cover seem to connect

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I want to speculate about this but I

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want to interject a story if I could

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that involve Stanley Kubrick yeah go for

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it you know we know Stanley Kubrick is

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um you know he did the what was the Eyes

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Wide Shut you know and 2001 if you

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listen to Bill Cooper William Cooper's

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podcast he does a whole coverage of 2001

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and talks about how enlightened Stanley

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Kubrick was and how he tries to decode

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all of the messaging so Stanley Kubrick

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is read in and then there's also the

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conspiracy theories that he's connected

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to the to help faking the moon landing

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and things like this so Stanley Kubrick

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is sort of read in if you want to buy

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into some of this stuff this is from

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passion magazine with hashing magazine

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dashing with a tea you remember this

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magazine it was full of like super

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irreverent art and stuff like this oh

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yes

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are you familiar with this one I like

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this magazine actually he's gonna say I

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do so we can move on this is a quote

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from attachment com it says for 40 years

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Kubrick fans and film buffs have

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wondered about the directors mysterious

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unmade film on the Polian Bonaparte

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slated for production immediately

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following the release of 2001 a Space

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Odyssey Kubrick's Napoleon was to be at

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once a character study and a sweeping

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epic replete with grandiose battle

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scenes featuring thousands of extras to

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write his original screenplay Kubrick

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embarked on two years of intensive

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research which he's known to do with

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Kubrick was very thorough very

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comprehensive and that's my interjection

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with the help of dozens of assistants

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and an Oxford Napoleon specialist he

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amassed an unparalleled trial trove of

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research and reproduction material

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including approximately 15,000 location

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scouting photographs in 17,000 slides of

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Napoleonic imagery knows

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was left unturned in Kubrick's nearly

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obsessive quest uncover every piece of

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information in history had to offer

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about Napoleon and he goes on to include

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this this this is an article that I'm

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reading so this is a background on

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Kubrick kind of looking into Napoleon

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and in the research he finds this in

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1815 edition of the gentleman's magazine

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mr. Irvin I essentially the following

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strange account of Bonaparte's interview

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with his genius they call him as it has

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made its way into several public prints

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with a view of inviting your enlightened

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and unprejudiced readers to a candid

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discussion of the probability of

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supernatural beings making their

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appearances to individuals for the

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purpose of animating them in the

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performance of great exploits for such

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it must be allowed Bonaparte has

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performed if an infernal or celestial

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spirit ever did or make its appearance

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it must be for a public and worthy of

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supernatural aid I like that and so that

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would not have been amazing if Kubrick

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had been able to make a movie about

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Napoleon where this little red character

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shows up it'd be kind of awesome

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he would have done it well be like The

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Shining with Napoleon or something some

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Napoleon's

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Napoleon is a his red hammer his red

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friend yeah

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Colin's red friend he was calling the

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red man I mean la Russe literally just

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means the red band so who is this do we

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maybe an alien what what is this thing

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uh gin a gin you know it could be

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although in appearing over like two

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hundred and six years of history to

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leave me not it must a lian's live a

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really long time maybe it is that's a

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good question I mean it what if what if

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what if aliens like red the red clothing

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could just be a spacesuit we don't know

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what that you know where that red thing

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was they just ruin yeah they you they

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wore big flowing gowns like what if like

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early

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the alien connections to Western

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civilization like they were learning

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like how to interact with us without

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freaking us out out and so they would

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man it because they apparently you know

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some people have enter counters with

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alien that's my first guess my first

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guess is alien but I don't know I think

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Joe right here we're into a little break

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are the call quality is absolute

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goddamnit is what clown baby's fine a

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climb he was fine but Joe's breaking up

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again

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you know those pauses sounded Jones

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sounded fine he was talking not over

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here we just had some technical issues

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there were Skype but we're gonna close

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out this monsters of the week Joe is

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running down the stand

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Stanley Kubrick film that he was gonna

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do about Napoleon yeah his interesting

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stuff man and he found it and guy

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doesn't skimp on research so I just find

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it fascinating that how now I'm kind of

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curious who stopped this movie from

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being made well didn't stop it because

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he did die well but this was after 2001

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a Space Odyssey that's oh I see you're

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saying example time well you know if

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they didn't stop Eyes Wide Shut why

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would they stop this they look Kubrick

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published it had a multitude of

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different kind of ideas and scripts

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floating around and ideas instead they

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it was pitching they probably like okay

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you can do AI and there could be come

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some cool graphics in there or you can

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do a movie with Napoleon in his little

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red friend he's got 15,000 location

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scouting photographs 17,000 slides of

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Napoleonic imagery that's a lot of work

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to just like yeah you know what it

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is I mean that is a lot of work to just

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up and abandon any probably probably

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plan to make that movie at some point in

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time I as an artist like how do you

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prioritize what you want to do next it's

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very hard to do we table a lot of our I

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mean I'm sure you're in the same

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position dude I got this project I got

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that project Hank it

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yeah

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I mean any listener of this podcast

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knows that I have so many movies in

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pre-production right now I don't even

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know what to go to do I do street legal

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dude do I do the semen catcher Skyy

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laser what about the boy the boy catcher

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boy Hunter hunter - pretty cool yeah

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they're gonna have my rap bands but the

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young jizz er and then all the snow boys

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I'm opening up clubs yeah who knows we

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were doing - Mary difficult to keep all

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these pans and the teen Apache movie

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club hard yeah it's it's all happening

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but I do agree with you Jo I don't know

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what what might be at play there for

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what a Kubrick and cuz he asked it

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funding for this he didn't put up his

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own money for these movies he had to get

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producers involved in the studio's are

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really back to stuff and who knows they

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you know because we know like Napoleon

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was being there's like Rothschild

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connections and like this right oh

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yeah so what a Rothschild the reason why

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Rothschild became even richer than he

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was based on whatever evidence you can

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see is if I'm remembering right is that

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the Rothschilds had messengers who move

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faster than the the rulers and so the

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Rothschilds who were more of investors

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they were able to call the shots

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where they were able to basically gamble

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on what the results of the war were

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gonna be and they knew before anyone

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else knew what happened when certain

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battles were being decided and they were

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able to gamble it's like these people

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with the experiencing like they're now

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being investigated I know this is such a

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weird random tangent but there's these

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three guys who are being investigated

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now because they were major shareholders

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sold off a bunch of stock right around

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the time of this major breach and and

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they didn't announce this breach for a

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long time and now they're saying oh they

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didn't know about the breach it's like

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hmm really or or the the people who did

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the the put options on Airlines before

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9/11 Wow it would be so strange if there

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was a network of

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people who knew what was happening

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before the information got to the people

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I tell you what anybody who doesn't

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believe that there were people in power

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who didn't know was going out before

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9/11 james corbett did a really

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excellent rundown on this and there's a

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book called black 9/11 check it out it's

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about the financials and the

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transactions that happened right up

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until the first plane crashed into the

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World Trade Centers read it and tell me

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that you believe the same story that the

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media is telling you go ahead it's my

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source these these coincidences always

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seem to happen around finance it's so

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strange

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it's like it's like when when people

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want to make money they'll do anything

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including killing people that's weird